ENERGY SECURITY³ PODCAST

March 12, 2025

On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Joe Calnan and Kelly Ogle interview Tom Kloza about U.S. refineries and why Canadian oil is needed in the United States.

For the intro, Kelly and Joe talk about Doug Ford's surcharge on electricity exports to the U.S. and what it means for North-South electricity trade.

Guest:

• Tom Kloza is Global Head of Energy Analysis at OPIS.

Host Bio:

• Kelly Ogle is Managing Director of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute.
• Joe Calnan is an Energy Security Analyst and Energy Security Forum Manager at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute.

Reading recommendation:

• The Bee Sting: A Novel, by Paul Murray.
• The Nix, by Nathan Hill.
• The Signal and the Noise: Why So Many Predictions Fail--but Some Don't, by Nate Silver.